Hello ux.symfony.com & 4 New UX Components
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Ryan Weaver
Ryan Weaver
that's incredible news, the webpage looks amazing!
A minor bug report: Go to https://ux.symfony.com/, click Swup Integration, click the back button in the browser and then click Swup Integration again. The "/swup" slug just shortly appears in the URL and is gone again, the Swup Integration page is not shown at all (only the first time, before the browser's Back button).
Ah, thanks - I'll check into that! We are "mixing" Turbo and Swup on that page (which normally makes no sense because they are technologies that do the same thing), so that might be causing an issue. If so, we can change to Swup only for that one page :).
Cheers!
> Why this focus on a frontend framework that pretty much no one is using? The whole world is using React, Angular, Vue and Svelte, but Symfony is insisting on providing Stimulus as the framework of choice.
That's a fair question :). React, Vue, etc are definitely hugely popular. But it's not accurate to say that the whole world is using them. For example, GitHub, StackOverflow, most news sites, etc are primarily "traditional" or "multipage apps" (MPAs) not SPAs. And there's a renewed debate about when and where an SPA is appropriate vs an MPA.
But, more importantly, it's Symfony! So you can do whatever you want. Symfony already has the tools needed for SPA's: you build an API (e.g. with API Platform) then build your frontend using the tooling from your library of choice (e.g. Svelte, React, etc). In this case, I wouldn't even use Webpack Encore: I would go "full in" on the tooling and project structure of your frontend framework (you could still do this in a mono repo if you'd like, however).
For the traditional apps (MPAs), which still (and will continue to) represent a large percentage of the projects, Symfony didn't really offer anything besides Webpack Encore. Stimulus is used by Hey.com and Basecamp (and the Ruby on Rails community in general) and fits beautifully into the MPA model. It's not the only tool that does this: it's a growing area. For example, GitHub itself has its own similar JavaScript tool: https://github.github.io/catalyst/
Anyways, I think this is a valid question to ask and get answered. The tl;dr is that (A) many apps are built as "multi-page apps" and will continue to be and that (B) Symfony should provide the tools necessary for both SPAs and MPAs (but SPA tooling is mostly already handled by the JS frameworks themselves).
Cheers!
There are a lot of situations that product owner wants a cool user interface, and often as a web developer, you are involved with time consuming code related with browser side interactive or real time effects.
Hotwire (Stimulus) is a very cleaver approach to solve this kind of problems, check it out https://hotwired.dev