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Fabien Potencier
Getting help on symfony1 or Symfony2
by Fabien Potencier – June 23, 2011 – 10 comments

Now that Symfony2 is just around the corner, we need to better organize community support for both symfony1 and Symfony2. As more people start using Symfony2, the user mailing-list is becoming more and more difficult to follow. Some months ago, we decided to prefix all messages about Symfony2 with [Symfony2], but that does not cut it anymore. People get frustrated and it's not always easy to understand which version of the framework a message is referring to.

After an opinionated discussion on the mailing-list, I've decided to create two new mailing-lists that are replacing the current users mailing-list: one for symfony1 and another one for Symfony2. The current mailing-list has been switched to the archive mode; all messages will remain browseable and searchable but new messages will be rejected. So, current subscribers need to subscribe to at least one of the new mailing-lists.

Creating two new mailing-lists is the best compromise to make it clear that both symfony 1.4 and Symfony 2.0 are stable and supported versions of the Symfony framework. Even after the release of Symfony2, it will still make sense to start new projects on symfony1 for a lot of developers and companies: symfony 1.4 is very stable, it supports PHP 5.2, it has many available plugins, it has a great documentation, many developers know this version, it is supported until the end of 2012, and more. In fact, at Sensio, we still have many symfony 1.0 based applications that we won't upgrade anytime soon. And that's fine. The end of maintenance of symfony 1.4 does not mean the end of its life time.

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    #1 Raphael said on the 2011/06/23 at 11:56
    Me as a current symfony 1 user I really think this is the best solution among the feasible ones, many thanks for this.
    Of course I generally prefer the forums over groups because of the far better research capabilities, but that's life... ;-)
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    #2 Josh Taylor said on the 2011/06/23 at 12:27
    Makes searching much, much easier. Will the old symfony2 topics be migrated over to the new google-groups?
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    #3 ApoY2k said on the 2011/06/23 at 12:48
    Why are you using mailing lists? I find boards much more easy to read, search and write to...
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    #4 Francis said on the 2011/06/23 at 14:37
    > Why are you using mailing lists? I find boards much more easy to read, search and write to...

    I agree. And why no multilanguages forums? You are french and you have no mailing list/forum in your own language!
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    #5 asiansexynine said on the 2011/06/23 at 18:15
    I don't understand why mailing lists? What's symfony have forum for? mailing list seem more private.. forum board very community and easy to read, post and search a topic..
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    #6 ApoY2k said on the 2011/06/23 at 19:16
    I agree that english is the language-to-go for every developer. I don't think multilanguage forums would bring any good to the community - just think that the same question could be asked mulitple times, with multiple different answers, that's just confusing and redundant.

    But still: mailing lists are so 2000... boards and forums are way more intuitive for 90% of the users, not to speak of the easier administration, moderation and management.

    Just my two cents...
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    #7 Oscar B. said on the 2011/06/23 at 22:39
    If email were so bad, no one were posting on mailing-lists. There is a Symfony forum indeed. But it is easier to have a general look to a bunch of mails than browsing on every forum's theme/category branch for me, also you can see if someone answers in live (thanks to ajax on gmail).
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    #8 Davide said on the 2011/06/23 at 23:34
    I think community already spoke regarding forum VS mailing list.
    The old symfony website had a forum, but after a while everybody realized if someone wanted an answer to a particular question, or to start a general discussion, mailing list was the way to go. It's a decision that's already been made.
    Maybe something like stack overflow could get the job done...
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    #9 codecowboy said on the 2011/06/24 at 12:02
    Great decision. Please consider doing the same for the IRC channel!
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    #10 alok jain said on the 2011/08/17 at 15:39
    I am new in Symfony2, How we can create project,Application and modules in symfony2 as Symfony1 where we can easily create via command line.